Legislature(1995 - 1996)

05/03/1995 01:43 PM Senate JUD

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                    HB 158 CIVIL LIABILITY                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR announced he would take testimony on the six court            
 rule changes, requested by Senator Adams.  He first took                      
 teleconference testimony.                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 521                                                                    
                                                                               
 DICK CATTENAUGH testified via teleconference from Anchorage.  He              
 stated HB 158 is supported by many organizations statewide.  He               
 discussed ways in which the current law hurts small businesses.               
 Punitive damages are not covered by insurance policies, and can               
 potentially destroy a firm and the individual owners of a firm.               
 This can cause small firms to settle rather than fight a case, to             
 minimize costs.  In a case his firm was involved in, members did              
 not want to put their personal net worths in jeopardy to prove they           
 did no wrong.                                                                 
                                                                               
 Number 565                                                                    
                                                                               
 DANIELLA LOPER, staff to Representative Porter, sponsor of HB 158,            
 provided the highlights of HB 158.                                            
                                                                               
 HB 158 creates a more equitable distribution of the cost and risk             
 of injury and will reduce costs associated with the civil justice             
 system in that it will eliminate duplicate recoveries for injured             
 plaintiffs.  It will establish thresholds for damage awards in                
 order to allow predictability of liability exposure.  It will also            
 stabilize the rapidly escalating costs of health care associated              
 with civil liability.  It will require one-half of punitive damages           
 awarded by a court be deposited to the general fund since punitive            
 damages were never established to compensate the injured plaintiff,           
 but rather to punish the wrongdoer.  The Municipality of Anchorage            
 supports HB 158.                                                              
                                                                               
 MS. LOPER gave the following sectional analysis.                              
                                                                               
 Section 2 deals with the statute of repose which prevents a lawsuit           
 from being filed after eight years.  Most states offer a statute of           
 repose between four and six years.  Exclusions to the statute of              
 repose are as follows: product liability; hazardous substances;               
 defective products; intentional acts of gross negligence; fraud or            
 fraudulent misrepresentation; intentionally concealed acts; or                
 undiscovered presence of a foreign body that has no therapeutic or            
 diagnostic purpose.                                                           
                                                                               
 Number 595                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR commented he was contacted by a woman representing             
 300 breast implant recipients.  They are very concerned about                 
 potential health hazards resulting from those implants.  He asked             
 MS. LOPER how she would respond to those concerns, since many of              
 those women received the implants more than eight years ago.                  
                                                                               
 MS. LOPER assumed breast implants would be considered a defective             
 product.  SENATOR TAYLOR noted the problems could also be caused by           
 medical malpractice.                                                          
                                                                               
 TAPE 95-30, SIDE B                                                            
                                                                               
 MS. LOPER believed the defective product exclusion under the                  
 statute of repose would give that group an unlimited time in which            
 to file a lawsuit.                                                            
                                                                               
 MS. LOPER explained Section 3 makes a technical change suggested by           
 the Division of Legal Services.  Section 4 provides for two years             
 of accrual, the time from which an injury is discovered.                      
                                                                               
 Number 586                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asked if that provision would apply to women who had           
 Dalkon Shields.  MS. LOPER was unsure, but replied those products             
 would be considered defective products under the statute of repose,           
 therefore would be excluded.  SENATOR GREEN clarified the person              
 would have two years from the time symptoms appeared and the                  
 problem was discovered to file the suit, not two years from the               
 time the Dalkon Shield was inserted.  SENATOR TAYLOR noted he had             
 a client who had a Dalkon Shield inserted ten years prior, and had            
 given birth to two children, and had six miscarriages.  She had               
 been misdiagnosed for ten full years by 12 different physicians.              
 The problem was discovered after surgery.                                     
                                                                               
 MS. LOPER asked how the case turned out.  SENATOR TAYLOR replied              
 she found a contingency attorney to represent her against some very           
 large insurance companies.  MS. LOPER noted she was allowed to file           
 the claim, and HB 158 would not change that ability.                          
                                                                               
 MS. LOPER explained Section 5 limits the non-economic cap on                  
 damages to $500,000 unless there is disfigurement.  In most states,           
 the limitations on non-economic damages range anywhere from                   
 $250,000 to $400,000.  HB 158 has a two-tier system:  there is a              
 $300,000 cap on non-economic damages for pain and suffering, and if           
 the injury is substantially more serious (defined in the bill), the           
 cap would be $500,000 on non-economic damages.  An amendment                  
 adopted on the House floor allows each child and the spouse in a              
 family to file a claim for that amount.                                       
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR questioned page 5, line 11, which allows the                   
 $500,000 amount for a person who has third degree burns over one-             
 half or more of his/her body.  If the burns do not cover at least             
 one-half of a body, the limit would be $300,000.  He noted he had             
 third degree burns over 35 percent of his body 25 years ago, which            
 was an extremely painful experience.                                          
                                                                               
 MS. LOPER stated Senator Taylor's experience was unfortunate,                 
 however many quadriplegics and paraplegics support HB 158.  She               
 stated there must be some predictability to the system, and that              
 non-economic damages should not be treated as a lottery ticket.  A            
 jury does not have anything substantial upon which to base the                
 judgment, whether it is $300,000 or $500,000.  In most cases in the           
 state of Alaska, it is rare for non-economic damage awards to be              
 above $200,000.  She estimated in the past five years there have              
 probably been less than five awards of $500,000.                              
                                                                               
 Number 508                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asked what the purpose of Section 5 is, in light of            
 that fact.  MS. LOPER responded the purpose is to offer                       
 predictability to the system.  SENATOR TAYLOR questioned if the               
 five awards she referred to were a reaction to passion on the part            
 of the jury, rather than a meaningful decision.  MS. LOPER stated             
 that unlike economic damages, where there is a paper trail, and               
 include economic, medical, and wage costs, there is                           
 unpredictability.                                                             
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asked how Section 5 provides any certainty.  MS.               
 LOPER replied that would occur by the limit of $500,000 for non-              
 economic damages.  SENATOR TAYLOR ascertained the predictability              
 would be in the fact that the plaintiff would not get an award from           
 the jury commensurate with the damages the jury should award.  He             
 asked if the five awards of $500,000 made by juries that went                 
 "nuts" over the past five years is the unpredictability HB 158                
 attempts to curtail.  MS. LOPER explained that any case that is               
 filed in which an injury occurred is open to the lottery ticket of            
 non-economic damages.  SENATOR TAYLOR disagreed.                              
                                                                               
 Number 475                                                                    
                                                                               
 MS. LOPER described Section 6, dealing with punitive damages.                 
 Section 6 codifies punitive damages as defined by the Alaska                  
 Supreme Court: outrageous conduct, including acts done with malice            
 or bad motives, or reckless indifference to the interest of another           
 person.  SENATOR TAYLOR asked, if that was the same standard of law           
 to which Mr. Cattenaugh and his firm were to be held, so that when            
 he made his decision about whether or not the firm was at risk for            
 a punitive damage award, his attorneys would have advised him that            
 the Alaska Supreme Court has determined it was outrageous conduct,            
 including acts done with malice or bad motives, or reckless                   
 indifference to the interest of another person.  He stated Section            
 6 does not change anything for Mr. Cattenaugh's firm concerning               
 punitive damages.  MS. LOPER stated that is correct, to the best of           
 her knowledge.  She stated there is no cap on punitive damages, but           
 a formula is offered.                                                         
                                                                               
 MS. LOPER explained the formula for punitive damages in Section 6             
 is three times the compensatory damages (the economic damages plus            
 non-economic damages), or $300,000, whichever is greater.  SENATOR            
 TAYLOR asked if a person had $1,000,000 in economic damages and               
 $300,000 in non-economic damages, how much he/she could collect in            
 punitive damages.  MS. LOPER calculated the punitive damages could            
 be $3.9 million.  If the injured person was awarded no economic or            
 non-economic damages, the amount could be $300,000.  She explained            
 of the $3.9 million punitive award, one-half would go to the state,           
 the other one-half would go to the injured party.                             
                                                                               
 Number 439                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR questioned the incentive for an injured party to               
 request punitive damages, if one-half is given to the state.  He              
 asked if the state would pay for one-half of the attorney fees to             
 get the punitive damage award.  MS. LOPER replied the state has               
 absolutely no standing, as stated in the bill, because punitive               
 damages were never established to compensate the injured party, but           
 to punish the wrongdoer.  SENATOR TAYLOR asked who would pay for              
 the attorney.  MS. LOPER answered the attorney would base the                 
 contingency fee on the full amount before it is divided.                      
                                                                               
 Number 428                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR discussed the following scenario.  If the punitive             
 damage award is $300,000 and the attorney takes the contingency fee           
 (50 percent) off of the full amount, the attorney would receive               
 $150,000.  The injured party would then get $75,000, or one-half of           
 the remaining award.  MS. LOPER agreed, and repeated the reason is            
 that punitive damages were not established to compensate the                  
 injured party; they were established to punish the wrongdoer.                 
 SENATOR TAYLOR stated under HB 158, the attorney would receive                
 twice as much as the victim.  MS. LOPER agreed, and noted an                  
 amendment on the House floor failed, but would have based the                 
 attorney's contingency fee on a percentage of the injured party's             
 one-half portion.                                                             
                                                                               
 Number 408                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asked how many punitive damage awards have been                
 awarded in the past five years in Alaska.  MS. LOPER estimated the            
 number was under ten, because the state of Alaska has one of the              
 toughest standards for punitive damage awards.                                
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asked if the punitive damage provision in HB 158               
 would apply to a case similar to the Exxon Valdez case.  MS. LOPER            
 replied that case was covered by federal law.  SENATOR TAYLOR noted           
 the state also filed suit.  MS. LOPER believed any state suits                
 filed would fall under the provisions of HB 158, if passed.                   
 SENATOR TAYLOR commented if a tanker spilled oil around Southeast,            
 the damages would not be economic.  MS. LOPER indicated economic              
 damages were awarded in the Exxon Valdez case.  SENATOR TAYLOR                
 stated there were also punitive and non-economic damages, to cover            
 the loss of environmental things, such as the ambiance. MS. LOPER             
 noted, under maritime law, awards for non-economic damages cannot             
 be made.  SENATOR TAYLOR clarified that under maritime law there is           
 a sailing to suitor's clause, which allows the injured party to               
 bring the suit to either state or federal court.  If the case is              
 tried in state court, state laws apply, therefore, the injured                
 party would be allowed to sue for non-economic damages.  Under                
 maritime law, there is a limitation on liability which is the value           
 of the ship.                                                                  
                                                                               
 MS. LOPER informed Senator Taylor that a bill passed the House in             
 Congress and is working its way through the Senate, that limits               
 non-economic damages to $250,000, and uses the same formula for               
 punitive damages.                                                             
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR ascertained the state received $50 million from the            
 Exxon Valdez case, for "restitution."  MS. LOPER stated those                 
 punitive damages will be going to the injured parties, not to the             
 state.  SENATOR TAYLOR noted a company owning a leaky oil tanker              
 would support the bill in Congress.                                           
                                                                               
 Number 359                                                                    
                                                                               
 MS. LOPER explained Section 8 clarifies the plaintiff is the only             
 party that can choose to take periodic payments.  Security should             
 be posted, and self-insured municipalities would be excluded.                 
 SENATOR TAYLOR asked for the definition of an "authorized insurer."           
 MS. LOPER assumed it would be an insurance company that could offer           
 enough money not to cause the court any problems for any kind of              
 security to be posted.  SENATOR TAYLOR stated it means people who             
 are authorized to sell insurance in the state of Alaska.  MS. LOPER           
 offered to obtain the statutory definition.                                   
                                                                               
 MS. LOPER discussed Section 9 which offers inflation adjustments              
 for periodic payments, so that the court will specify the                     
 percentage or method for increases of future periodic payments to             
 cover inflation.  She added it will prevent future litigation for             
 adjustment of the original award.  SENATOR TAYLOR asked Ms. Loper             
 if she had any money invested between 1976 and 1980.  He remarked             
 that had the best experts been hired in 1975 to determine an                  
 inflation rate for an award, they would have been wrong.  MS. LOPER           
 commented there was not even a provision in current law that                  
 adjusted future payments by anticipated inflation, so this section            
 was added for the benefit of the injured plaintiff.  She guessed              
 the plaintiff could request the periodic payment schedule be                  
 amended if inflation rates changed radically.                                 
                                                                               
 MS. LOPER described the collateral benefits section (Section 10).             
 Most of the section is current law, except for the fact that                  
 plaintiffs would not be able to recover duplicate amounts received            
 from collateral sources.  It provides exceptions for certain                  
 collateral sources that are subrogated to the claimant, and for               
 death benefits and worker compensation benefits.  It allows a                 
 person defending a defendant to introduce evidence of amounts                 
 received from certain collateral sources and prohibits a person who           
 provides a collateral benefit that is introduced into evidence from           
 recovering that amount from the claimant or being subrogated the              
 rights of the claimant.                                                       
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asked how that would apply to a construction worker            
 who was badly injured on the job due to an improperly manufactured            
 DA cap.  The worker begins to receive worker compensation payments            
 and brings suit against the third party for negligence.  MS. LOPER            
 stated workers compensation benefits cannot be introduced as a                
 collateral benefit (lines 25-29, page 7).  SENATOR TAYLOR noted               
 that is convenient for the insurance company defending because that           
 way the jury would not hear about how much money was paid by                  
 workers compensation to keep the worker alive before the suit was             
 settled.                                                                      
                                                                               
 MS. LOPER noted it is similar to Civil Rule 411.  If the workers              
 compensation benefit was $100,000, and the third party's damages              
 for negligence amounted to $200,000, the workers compensation award           
 could not be introduced as a collateral source.  If the workers               
 compensation award was for $300,000, he/she would have to pay the             
 employer $100,000 for the workers compensation, and would keep                
 $200,000.  SENATOR TAYLOR asserted the jury would not know the                
 worker owed the $100,000 bill that would have to be paid.  He asked           
 what other sources the jury could be informed of.  MS. LOPER                  
 replied medical benefit payments could be disclosed.  SENATOR                 
 TAYLOR answered if a person is responsible enough to purchase an              
 insurance policy to cover his/her own injuries, even though the               
 other party was negligent, they could claim they did not owe the              
 claimant that amount.  MS. LOPER gave the following example.  An              
 employee is covered by health insurance by the employer, and is               
 involved in an accident (not job related) and breaks a leg.  The              
 hospital bill is $50,000.  Her medical insurance covers 80 percent            
 of the $50,000.  The jury awards $100,000.  Even though the medical           
 benefit was paid for by the insurance company, the employee would             
 pocket that money.  SENATOR TAYLOR asked what kind of policy would            
 allow that since the carrier would sue for payment.  Under state              
 health care coverage, if the state covers medical bills, the                  
 injured party is required to sue the negligent party or the state             
 can terminate health care coverage.  The state does not pay                   
 attorney's fees for the law suit.   Most insurance carriers have a            
 similar provision in their contracts.                                         
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR clarified under Section 10, the jury would be                  
 informed that the injured party received $50,000 from the employer,           
 to prevent the injured party from receiving a judgement of                    
 $100,000.  MS. LOPER stated plaintiffs are overcompensated all of             
 the time; they are not repaying the insurance company.  SENATOR               
 TAYLOR asked MS. LOPER if she had any evidence to cite.  She stated           
 she did it herself.  SENATOR TAYLOR noted if she was reimbursed for           
 $100,000, the negligent party would essentially get credit for the            
 $50,000 paid by the employer.  MS. LOPER asserted collateral                  
 benefits are not designed to punish the wrongdoer, that would be              
 paid under punitive damages.  SENATOR TAYLOR remarked that if the             
 award was for $100,000, and the jury was informed the insurance               
 company paid $50,000 in medical bills, the difference would be                
 $50,000 paid to the injured party, and the wrongdoer would                    
 essentially be rewarded by not having to pay the medical costs.               
                                                                               
 Number 076                                                                    
                                                                               
 MS. LOPER responded everyone bears the cost in the increase of                
 insurance rates.  An injured party could punish a drunk driver                
 under punitive damages, collateral benefits were never designed to            
 offer duplicate recoveries to the injured party.  SENATOR TAYLOR              
 believed the employer has the right to be reimbursed for the cost             
 of medical expenses paid by the employer, which will keep rates               
 down.  MS. LOPER replied it basically sets up a no-fault state.               
 The intent of the section is to stop the overcompensation of                  
 plaintiffs.                                                                   
                                                                               
 TAPE 95-31, SIDE A                                                            
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR argued that punitive damages cannot be relied on,              
 since they are very rarely awarded, and one-half would have to be             
 paid to the state under HB 158.  Also, punitive damages are not               
 covered by an insurance policy.  He repeated that if Aetna paid               
 $50,000 in medical bills, and the injured party sues, Aetna would             
 be entitled to repayment.  If the judgement was $100,000, Aetna               
 would be repaid $50,000, and the attorney's contingency fee of 30             
 percent would amount to $30,000.  The remainder of $20,000 would go           
 to the injured party.  SENATOR TAYLOR explained that under HB 158,            
 under the collateral rule, the amount of the award would be                   
 $50,000, of which 30 percent would be paid to the attorney                    
 ($17,000) but $50,000 would still be owed to Aetna.                           
                                                                               
 Number 295                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR commented he did not understand why the sponsor                
 would want to deprive the insurance carrier who did no wrong, from            
 being able to seek subrogation and restitution.  He noted this                
 provision would work well for a millionaire since one's own money             
 is not considered a collateral source.  MS. LOPER said an indigent            
 person would collect the same amount as the millionaire.                      
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asked how the working class person would be affected           
 by the collateral source provision.  MS. LOPER answered if the                
 person was insured, there would be no subrogation, and the person             
 would have to show that some compensation had been made, and that             
 the injured party did not pay the hospital bill out of pocket.                
 SENATOR TAYLOR repeated his concern that the collateral source                
 provision allows the "bad" guy to take credit for the "good" guys             
 coverage.  MS. LOPER replied she views the situation from the                 
 standpoint of returning the injured party to where they were prior            
 to the accident.  From that perspective, she believes the                     
 collateral benefits section in current law overcompensates the                
 injured party.  SENATOR TAYLOR asked for data on the amounts of               
 overcompensation awards.                                                      
                                                                               
 MS. LOPER explained Section 11.  It deals with the apportionment of           
 fault by bringing in all parties responsible for the accident.  It            
 does away with joint, civil liability.  In Section 11 the phrase              
 "party to person" is removed and the clause, "or other person                 
 responsible for the damages to each claimant regardless of whether            
 the other person, including the employer, is or could have been               
 named as a party to the action" is added.  That would stop the                
 practice of going after the person with the deep pocket by naming             
 each person responsible for the accident as a party to the action,            
 including the employer.  This section would reverse the Lake v                
 Construction decision.                                                        
                                                                               
 Section 12 further delineates the apportionment of fault.  MS.                
 LOPER stated when the injured party brings a claim to court, all              
 parties that have a percentage of fault must be named, instead of             
 just naming one that is insured for the largest amount.  SENATOR              
 TAYLOR asked if this provision would result in multiple litigation            
 which would increase costs, as opposed to suing the two most liable           
 parties.   MS. LOPER replied all people responsible for the act               
 would be sued.  SENATOR TAYLOR stated the defendant has always had            
 the right to name and bring into the suit all parties involved. He            
 added if a person was hit by two cars and the accident resulted in            
 a pileup, the injured party would have to sue all cars involved,              
 and the state for poor road maintenance, rather than the two                  
 drivers who were primarily responsible for the accident.  He                  
 questioned the increased amount of court time the provision would             
 create.  MS. LOPER stated she believes it is fair and just to name            
 all those responsible for the accident, rather than allow those who           
 have no insurance to walk away from a case.  SENATOR TAYLOR claimed           
 the defendant would bring in other responsible parties, rather than           
 taking sole responsibility.                                                   
                                                                               
 MS. LOPER believed the issue to be a policy call and that Senator             
 Taylor is saying the defendant should take full responsibility,               
 even though he/she is only 10 percent at fault, but has the most              
 insurance coverage.  SENATOR TAYLOR clarified that under current              
 law, a wealthy contractor who is being sued, but is only                      
 responsible for 10 percent of the damages, would have his attorneys           
 bring the other defendants into court.  He stated Section 12 forces           
 the injured victim to figure out who all of the actors were, down             
 to the smallest percentile of liability.  MS. LOPER reiterated                
 Section 12 is designed to prevent the plaintiff from suing one                
 party only because that party has the most money.                             
                                                                               
 MS. LOPER explained Section 13 allows either party to make an offer           
 to settle a claim up to 10 days before a trial begins.  The offer             
 must be accepted within 10 days and recorded by the clerk of the              
 court.                                                                        
                                                                               
 Section 14 deals with prejudgment interest and changes the interest           
 rate from the fixed amount of 10.5 percent, to a floating rate,               
 three percent above the Federal Reserve District discount rate.               
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asked if the prejudgment interest is determined on             
 the date the process is served, rather than the date of injury.               
 MIKE LESSMEIER, State Farm Insurance, clarified it would be                   
 determined on the date of written notification by the claimant,               
 which could be the date of injury.                                            
                                                                               
 Section 15 disallows the payment of prejudgment interest for future           
 economic damages, future non-economic damages, or for punitive                
 damages.                                                                      
                                                                               
 MS. LOPER stated Section 16 makes a technical change to current law           
 and includes all of the provisions in HB 158 in the Uniform                   
 Arbitration Act.                                                              
                                                                               
 Section 17 requires medical expert witnesses to meet certain                  
 standards.  SENATOR TAYLOR asked if a general practitioner would be           
 unable to testify to previous malpractice by a specialist, since              
 that practitioner was not trained in that particular discipline.              
 MR. LESSMEIER noted the general practitioner would be allowed to              
 testify.  SENATOR TAYLOR asked for evidence of cases in which the             
 court has allowed a doctor, not familiar with a specific                      
 discipline, to testify on that discipline.                                    
 MS. LOPER stated Section 18 defines the terms "professional                   
 negligence" and "professional services" as used in HB 158.  She               
 noted at one time there was a specific statute of limitations and             
 repose for health care providers, but that section was eliminated             
 in the House Finance Committee.  SENATOR TAYLOR added AS 09.55.560            
 contains a definition of health care providers by listing each.               
                                                                               
 MS. LOPER described Section 19 as providing clarification of                  
 circumstances in which hospitals are held directly liable for the             
 actions of a health care provider not employed by the hospital.               
 Current law permits a claimant to sue only the hospital, rather               
 than the doctor as an independent contractor, who may have less               
 ability to pay.  SENATOR TAYLOR asked if current law only permits             
 the claimant to sue the hospital.  MS. LOPER replied under current            
 law the claimant can sue both the doctor and the hospital.  She               
 added the state of Alaska does not require doctors to carry                   
 insurance.  SENATOR TAYLOR stated that resulted from the first tort           
 reform movement.  Doctors complained they could not purchase                  
 insurance at a reasonable rate, so MICA was created which doctors             
 had to join.  The state was sued by doctors who were able to find             
 less expensive insurance, so they did not have to be covered under            
 MICA.  Since that time, the state has not been able to require                
 doctors to have malpractice coverage.                                         
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR commented line 29 defines when a doctor is an                  
 independent contractor.  MS. LOPER noted the definition is on page            
 11, line 19.  SENATOR TAYLOR believed the definition classifies an            
 independent contractor as a welcome trespasser.  MS. LOPER noted              
 the definition is further defined by the list of "health care                 
 providers" on line 14, and the hospital will always be liable for             
 the hiring of an independent contractor if it was negligent in its            
 hiring practices.  Section 19 also requires the independent                   
 contractor to give notice of limited liability, posted in all                 
 admissions areas and in area newspapers annually.                             
                                                                               
 TAPE 95-31, SIDE B                                                            
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asked what that notice will mean to a patient.  MS.            
 LOPER replied the only control a hospital administrator has over a            
 physician is in the hiring process.  SENATOR TAYLOR stated as a               
 hospital attorney, he got rid of five doctors, and had their                  
 licenses pulled.  He stated a good hospital board and administrator           
 will regularly engage in peer review and will not cover for                   
 incompetent doctors.  He noted if the hospital in Tampa, where                
 several tragedies have recently occurred, had hired those doctors             
 as independent contractors, the hospital would have no liability to           
 any of the victims.  MS. LOPER replied the hospital would not be              
 liable if it believed the doctors were competent when they were               
 hired.  SENATOR TAYLOR asked how the hospital board would know if             
 the doctor was incompetent until he/she did an incompetent act.               
 MS. LOPER believed the hospital board would investigate a doctor's            
 background, and added if the hospital was negligent in hiring a               
 doctor, it would be liable.  SENATOR TAYLOR stated mistakes are               
 considered negligence, and if a good surgeon makes a mistake, the             
 hospital would not share the liability.  He discussed the heart               
 surgeon in Portland, Oregon who made fatal errors in two heart                
 transplant operations in one year, and how a notice of limited                
 liability would be of little help to the families of those victims.           
                                                                               
 MS. LOPER stated Section 20 prevents a person from suing if the               
 accident occurred while in the act of committing a felony.  SENATOR           
 TAYLOR stated this section resulted from testimony in the House               
 Finance Committee about several young men who were attempting to              
 paint numbers on the roof of a high school as a prank, and one of             
 the men fell through a skylight and was disabled for life.  He was            
 awarded several hundred thousand dollars because the skylight was             
 painted black and was difficult to see.  He asked if this provision           
 was originally written to include any crime.  MS. LOPER replied the           
 crime must be a felony.  SENATOR TAYLOR clarified the section has             
 been tightened since it now includes a person who attempts to                 
 convict a felony and not only a person convicted of committing a              
 felony.                                                                       
                                                                               
 MS. LOPER explained Section 21 is fashioned after Civil Rule 11.              
 It is an attempt to stop frivolous lawsuits from being filed.  If             
 there is a violation, monetary sanctions of up to $10,000 shall be            
 imposed.  SENATOR TAYLOR questioned whether a similar provision               
 exists in the rules of court.  MS. LOPER stated affirmatively, but            
 noted there are no monetary sanctions.  SENATOR TAYLOR stated it is           
 his understanding there are no limits, either.  He asked what the             
 purpose of placing this provision in statute is.  MS. LOPER                   
 repeated the court rule does not specify monetary sanctions against           
 the attorney.  SENATOR TAYLOR stated this provision caps the amount           
 the attorney can be charged.  MR. LESSMEIER commented Rule 37                 
 allows sanctions.  MS. LOPER added Section 21 provides one option,            
 a larger sanction could be obtained using Rule 37.                            
                                                                               
 MS. LOPER stated Alaska Rule of Civil Procedure 95 was amended in             
 Section 21.  SENATOR TAYLOR noted that instead of changing the Rule           
 which would require a two-thirds majority vote, the statute is                
 changed, which has the effect of changing the rule.                           
                                                                               
 SENATOR TAYLOR asked Ms. Loper to provide the requested information           
 as soon as possible, and adjourned the meeting at 6:26 p.m.                   

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